Nnn Bc Telemark, I ll be in Alpina Alaskas Telemark skiing
Nnn Bc Telemark, I ll be in Alpina Alaskas Telemark skiing in Alpina Alaska NNN BC boots on a wider 78mm waisted Karhu Guide / Madshus Annum ski. Hello. I was thinking of mounting an nnn-bc binding on these skis to test out telemark skiing at my local resort. 75mm duckbills are better for descending, especially in tele or extended snowplow. The USGI turned well. Ski monté pour le ski de fond nordique mais peuvent être utilisés en station aussi, telemark ou ski de Touring avec d’autres fixations. I learned to make a telemark turn on 3-pin-cable bindings, with rigid plastic Nordic boots. 140 legnth NNN binding. How risky is it to ski intermediate groomer slopes in stiff boots, like the Fischer BCX Transnordic, and NNN BC bindings? What would be the most common sorts of injuries and how to The NNN-BC binding only really works in turns if you lock down your Ball-of-Foot when lifting the heel to engage the rails. My only concern is that the wood core of skis are so unforgiving. Even though the “bc” toe pin and boots are “beefier” than standard nnn (or what’s the other? Sns?) the free pivot design is great for striding; lack of purchase or contact with the ski will make it difficult to make a tele turn. A little background. Vahva, käsikäyttöinen lukitusmekanismi toimii kelissä kuin kelissä. NNN/"BC" ? bullshit. Does Drill Holes for Super Telemark or Chili Binding $10. It was only 200 cm, and I was not pleased with glide, so I purchased a faster ski. One could also make the same arguments regarding skis. Now the controversial part: telemark technique with a system (NNN, SNS) binding… Claiming that the NNNBC binding can or cannot be used as a telemark binding is more than a matter of opinion- I have learned that it is also a matter of technique. SOMEWHAT RELATED: Why don't XC skis have edges? Here s something I can t figure out People say that NNN BC is okay for turns up to a particular width underfoot. Not certain which bindings choose for cross-country skiing in the backcounty? Confused by the difference between NNN-BC or 75mm bindings? Cable-curious? Find all the answers here! I have Alaska boots (nnn-bc), I have some k2 shuksan skis (light weight backcountry skis 186 cm 107-75-98). But surely, if I am skiing a very wide ski, I am usually doing With the cost of the NNN-BC bindings at over $100 a pop regular price it may be worthwhile on some beefier and maybe less used older skis to insert them and share a binding between skis using Vibra-Tite VC-3 Threadmate threadlocker. I don't think I'd do expedition style polar sledging with them, but as the kick is limited climbing a hill it didn't matter much. they were no better or worse on the groomed nordic than stock nordic track gear and they had no relevance to "BC", period. I know a lot of people on here aren t much interested in this, but maybe at some point you will be, but there is a difference between even plain pins and NNN-BC. to clarify: Rottefella makes *three* NNN-BC Bindings: Manual Auto Magnum Auto and Manual are about the same dimensions, and differ for how you engage binding to boot. 6 cm between hole centers). Opinions about whether it will be available in this type of equipment and how well it performs are mixed. My current boots are an older model of Alpina 1550 Size 44, which are adequate for the type of skiing I do on them (mostly flat, compacted snow, off-track), but have some problem with toe pinch. View a wide selection of Cross Country Skis and other great items on KSL Classifieds. Our bindings are compatible with our selection of nordic boots. Re: NNN-BC versus Pins: Just the facts by satsuma » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:30 pm Johnny left out Scarpa, which makes a few 75 mm boots and no NNN-BC boots. Of course, that system requires a different boot. I think that the 3pin-cable binding- especially when paired with a Telemark boot- can definitely offer "better" downhill performance than XP or NNN-BC- but, I think that there are many Nordic ski touring contexts where this does not matter! $120 Rossignol BC70 Men Women Size L 180cm Nordic Backcountry Skis NNN BC Bindings in Murray, UT on KSL Classifieds. They provide more stability on descents. For the boots, a pair of Crispi Svartisen BC or Alpina Alaska BC looked like the most appealing option (any preference or other suggestions?). They would ski 4 inches of light snow on a packed surface, but so would about any other Nordic track gear. Stiffness wise they are close to the Alaska's and much stiffer than my RC6's. Summary: - Maximum Screw mounting width of Xplore, NNN-BC and Rottefella Super Telemark are the same (2. Due to the strength of the binding/boot (and some of my past alpine skiing); the telemark technique I developed was to steer my way into a telemark. Single camber 80-60-70ish shape. [1] Bindings: NNN BC vs 3 Pin for good turns? by Tiefschnee » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:37 pm I've skied for years on NNN BC bindings and I can do a respectable tele turn on 185 cm Epochs, as long as the snow is decent and the slope isn't too steep. FWIW the original replacement was an early model E-99, it also disappointed as far as glide was concerned. Skis are Karhu 10th Mountain (same as the current Madshus Epoch), bindings are Rottefella Magnum NNN-BC, and poles are Life-link Vario Carbon Learned to telemark on long super skinny skis (think 210 e89s) with those early NNN BC bindings in 1991 or 1992. The Magnum is a base plate that is a handful of mm wider - to help control wider skiis. My skis mounted NNN-BC are more or less straight XC oriented skis, with the exception of a USGI ski. I do backcountry Nordic touring, but like to put a few turns on any slope that presents itself. CIMA used to post At first sight, it looked like that kind of binding would give me the heel support and control upon turning and in deeper snow. Skis and poles. I have 4 pairs of manuals and 2 pairs of autos. NNN vs NNN-BC on 50ish waisted XC touring skis by Woodserson » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:47 pm What are thoughts on mounting NNN bindings vs NNN-BC bindings on touring skis that are around 50mm in the waist? I have NNN mounted on my Fischer Country Wax/Crowns (52mm) and my wood Holmenkollen (Asnes) Tur Langrenns (48mm). I would like to hear some more aspects of this telemark style binding vs the one I was using (front clip or NNN). The advantage of 75 mm boots is that they can be used on heavy telemark skis as well as XC/BC skis. Re: NNN-BC Red Flexors by Woodserson » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:13 pm Yeah red flexors! When I had my Ingstad's set up for NNN-BC I used the reds and they worked really nice for the turns and they were snappy on the climbs. Any tips for learning to tele-turn on BC skis with NNN BC bindings? I recently moved to a place with no groomed trails around, so my skate skis have been put away for the time being. Think of the Magnum as a wider Manual. 5 cm (or forwards by 2 cm, if you use the NNN-BC front holes as the XPlore rear holes) - When remounting from Initial review - NNN-BC by HBS » Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:36 pm You probably know the Glittertind ski's but did you know there are Glittertind boots? I recently purchased a pair and got to compare them with my Fischer RC6's and the Alpina Alaska's they had in stock. I still consider the ALFA Kikut Perform GTX sole quite a stiff one compared to regular tour-oriented NNN-BC boots. Alpina makes a beefy backcountry boot - the BC 1550 - that requires a more substantial NNN binding with a wider track and pin for stability. The Auto, is more of a “step-in” boot engagement Salomon SNS BC bindings and boots have been out of production for several years. Received some cool alpina telelite boots, nnn bc. 176 cm (68kg-82kg) En très bon état, utilisé une fois I've reached the point where I need new NNN-BC boots anyway, am looking at getting some new all purpose skis to replace the ones that I am too heavy for, and I still don't have a good pair of 75-mm 3-pins to match a backcountry hut style set up. Alpina Alaska NNN BC boot test run, December 19, 2013. I'd like to achieve a similar feat and build the most optimal downhill-capable-ish NNN-BC setup, for telemark. Telemark skiing is named after the Telemark region of Norway, where the discipline originated. Bindings: NNN BC vs 3 Pin for good turns? by Tiefschnee » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:37 pm I've skied for years on NNN BC bindings and I can do a respectable tele turn on 185 cm Epochs, as long as the snow is decent and the slope isn't too steep. Despite the traditional anxiety- there is very little actual reporting on NNN-BC boot/binding failures (there are reports of failures of track NNN boots/bindings failing in the BC). Telemark skiing Telemark skiing is a skiing technique that combines elements of Alpine and Nordic skiing, using the rear foot to keep balance while pushing on the front foot to create a carving turn on downhill skis with toe-only bindings. NNN or SNS BC is nonsense. That being said- there are obviously plastic parts involved which must eventually deteriorate. 00 Oct 31, 2014 · NNN-BC is excellent for touring, moderate climbing and descending, and is easier to use. Thoughts on fixing? Soles appear to be held by screws. Poplar or paulownia are light (good) but not strong (bad), One could either clamp or pre install the screws fully in the binding before screwing to I m going to be mounting a nnn bc binding on an older currently mounted with pitbull tele bindings Atomic Telemark ski. I've been on these for a season and a half. Tip is taped on one ski as it was separating, we taped it and always worked fine, could possibly be glued. . Hello and a Happy New Year to all of you. I like it so much that I bought the Alaska 75 mm boot this summer, however I got it on sale, delivered, for less than $100. (available in 75 or NNN BC) The Antarctic is a classic 75mm Norwegian stitch design that will last you for years of touring. Pricewise (at least locally) is identical to Alaska XP. Telemark 3-pin bindings are differentiated from "plain old" 3-pins simply by the cable that goes around the back of your boot. Both with the same attachment to boot. NNN-BC boot fit advice by satsuma » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:50 am I have been looking at Ebay and it is getting me interested in buying some new NNN-BC boots. Rottefella Cobra is wider. IF YOU HAVE NEVER MOUNTED NNN BC BINDINGS BEFORE, PLEASE READ. No steering those suckers - striding and jump turns. Rottefella NNN BC Magnum on hieman järeämpi kärkiside leveämpiin tunturi-, Telemark- ja eräsuksiin. A short review of backcountry skiing with NNN-BC kit. The fit is amazing and would love to use, but the pin is broken. These bindings are difficult to source in Australia and require a specific matching ski boot. Leveämpi sidelevy Mounting NNN BC Bindings - #2 by Stephen » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:09 am I changed my thinking on this from the original post, and so am reposting, in case there are new comments relative to this posting. I also have an Alaska in NNN-BC and I really like it. I recently picked up some metal edged BC 110s with NNN BC bindings so I can adventure around the local state park trails. If you're coming up on tippy toes and riding the bar, it's almost useless. I ve just received a new pair of Madshus Panorama 78 in the hope to see some powder this year and due to financial constraints a NNN BC I have been using the NNN BC boot binding system since the early 90s and, apart from one of the original bindings the version on which the lever was a metal ring breaking, I have The Svartisen is a leather-2-strap and is the best made boot in it's class and will push any backcountry ski. They have skied well. Outside of 75mm, the binding choices are very limited: Rottefella NNN BC Manual, Rottefella NNN BC Magnum, and Rottefella Xplore. That leaves quite a bit of overhang on the sides of skiis with center widths around this The NNN-BC binding system can also be used for telemark skiing with NNN-BC boots, but generally the NNN-BC system is not available with heavy telemark equipment. Starting in the last half of the twentieth century, three standards for cross-country and telemark ski bindings emerged: The 75-mm Nordic Norm (NN), the Salomon Nordic System (SNS), and the New Nordic Norm (NNN). Re: 3 Pin or NNN BC Magnum? by fisheater » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:07 pm To add to what Connyro states, it is just easier to find a quality leather boot that fits in NNN-BC. Thanks. Also deleting the content of the original post, to avoid confusion. I have only heard bad things about Rottefella NNN BC Automatic. Anyway, I have been thinking about getting a pair of telemark skis, and would like to use my present NNN-BC Alpina boots (the high-top ones with cinch straps), which seem adequate. $40 The NNN-BC binding has a wider platform than standard NNN- therefore it can handle more torsional force than a standard NNN platform (designed for the track). I have heard for years people shy away from NNN BC auto bindings, but I think they are great. I have recommended them in the past for crossover skiing to snowshoeing as they're very comfortable, warm, and offer great support without being stiff. As mentioned above - the 75mm in itself does not guarantee better downhill control. Ski jumping bindings are specialized to the sport. This new binding appears to lack a significant amount of boot sole/binding interface. NN- with its 75mm platform- can handle more torsional forces than even the widest NNN-BC platform- the 68mm Magnum. Re: Mounting NNN BC Bindings by GrimSurfer » Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:01 pm I see where you’re going with this and agree… kind of. Quicker to turn than the 68mm waisted Karhu 10th Moun I switched from NNN-BC magnum to Rottefella Super Telemark with cable a few years ago. All the autos are on narrower skis and After much research and hemming and hawing, I ended up getting an end of season blow out package deal from OnionRiverSports that included Rossignol BC 65's in 195 length (longest available, for my 185 pound carcass) with NNN-BC bindings, Rossi BC X2 boots, and some cheap poles. I can squeeze the sole with my hands with some force on the Kikut, while I need a lot of force to squeeze the Alaska. From my personal perspective: sole is typical NNN-BC sole, made by Rottefella, upper part is iteration of newly designed line, first seen on Pioneer Pro Xplore. Rottefella introduced the New Telemark Norm binding in 2007 to provide a free heel telemark ski binding with lateral release, increased lateral rigidity and good touring functionality. Bindings for nordic backcountry skiing and light telemark: NNN BC (Fischer / Rottefella), SNS (Salomon), 75 mm (Rottefella / Voile USA) and universal bindings (X-Trace / Berwin). Will try to go to the shop to do some weigh comparison with classic Alaska. Sep 27, 2025 · One of the things that makes BC NNN so stiff laterally (compared to plain NNN) is the way the boot sole integrates with the ridges on the stomp plate of the binding. Rottefella suggests their Magnum NNN-BC are suitable for ski widths down to 52mm. - When remounting from NNN-BC to XPlore, you can re-use the same front two holes and your pin line gets moved backwards by 0. g9zji9, axql, yli7, cajeb, vihu3, jayfg, p96mj9, u2km, nvvoa, vrhqm,